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    January 21, 2010
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> larry: tonight, more aftershocks in haiti and the plight of the orphans. the fate of more than 100 haitian babies in limbo. what's going to happen to them? plus another story of survival. live from the earthquake zone. then, john edwards admits he fathered his one-time mistress' little daughter. a former campaign adviser is here to speak for him. and then usher joins us with his haitian relief efforts. all next on "larry king live." we begin in port-au-prince with anderson cooper, the anchor of cnn's "a.c. 360." anderson, what's the latest on
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our little 5-year-old survivor? >> reporter: we actually went to find him today. the last we had seen him he was being cared for by doctors from the international medical corps. they say he was showing good signs and started to eat something. he had actually passed urine which is a good sign. means his kidneys were still functioning. he was taken, we believe, by his uncle today from the hospital. so far we haven't been able to find him. we're going to try to do that tomorrow. apparently his uncle has taken him away back to the uncle's home. we're not sure. his condition seems to be okay. we came across, larry, in the pediatric ward at general hospital. there's this whole new generation of orphans now in port-au-prince and probably other places in haiti. a lot of kids whose parents have died, in the hospital who end up with nowhere to go. little boy, johnny, broken leg, no importa parents, no clothes.
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the haitian nurses couldn't send him away. he was staying on a mattress on the floor because he had nowhere else to go. >> larry: anderson, with so many people, so many in america, parents wanting to adopt children, couldn't things be expedited through red tape? and get these kids quickly here? >> reporter: well, for a lot of the little kids whose adoptions had already been approved that is being expedited and the u.s. embassy is working on that. the real problem is for these kids who have no paperwork, for the kids in orphanages. the paperwork has been lost or it wasn't at the stage where everything had been signed and sealed. also for all these new orphans cropping up, what is going to be done about them? the haitian government is barely functioning. there is, you know, a lot of orphanages are badly damaged and there are these people separated from their parents or their parents have died. >> larry: you see any light at the end of the tunnel, anderson?
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>> reporter: you know, there's many points of light here. there's greater food distribution and water distribution. they've set up a number of distribution points throughout the city. the aid is in the pipeline. there's a lot of aid sitting at the airport. a lot of it is getting distributed. it's not happening fast enough. i think it's the medical supplies that have been the weakest link in this chain so far. it seems from the people we talked to there wasn't a high enough priority put on getting emergency medical supplies, surgeons, surgical theaters up and running. there are huge numbers of different estimates. a lot of people dying because they're not getting the life-saving surgery in time. >> larry: an op-ped article in "the new york times" today seemed to say the author seeming to -- i think it was nick kristof, there's yet a lot of faith in the -- in this government, in the haitian government and the leader of this government to make progress. do you see that? >> reporter: there's not a lot of faith, certainly.
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>> larry: there is. no, there is a lot of faith. >> reporter: oh, there is a lot of faith. i don't know. a lot of the haitians i talked to don't seem to have much confidence in their government. there's not a great history of haitian governments that respond to the needs of the people. it's not the haitian government people are saying, where are they? it's the u.s., it's the united nations. it's the international community that most haitians are looking to for help. they kind of have shrugged their shoulders about their own government, at least the ones i've talked to. >> larry: you're not one of those giving up on that country, are you? >> reporter: listen, haiti is an incredibly strong country. the people will remarkly strong. survived an awful lot. what the average person here has been through in their lifetime is greater than most people should ever face. so, no, i wouldn't count haiti out. this is a great country. it is down but certainly not out. >> larry: anderson cooper will be back at the top of the hour hosting "a.c. 360." there's more from haiti, here's some of gary tuchman's reporting
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today. >> reporter: we received an e-mail an orphanage collapsed. that most of the children survived but many died. we weren't sure if the e-mail was true. we've gotten a lot of rumors during this coverage. unfortunately this was sadly true. it appears 36 children died here. 20 of the bodies have been recovered. inside that hole are the bodies that were found a short time ago of two children. they can't get them out of the hole because there's no room. as we speak to you right now and cover the story now, over here are men from the neighborhood, no international aid, men from the neighborhood digging with tools. taking a well-earned break. working for hours looking for bodies of orphans down there. it's terribly sad. this is the whole thing we've encountered the whole time. how come there's not more help here? these are children we're talking about. help get their bodies out. what if they're survivors? we don't think they're survivors. what if they are? there are so many scenes like this. so many rescue and recoveries, just not enough help around.
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one thing i want to tell you, while we were covering this story, this is the part of the orphanage did not fall. this is where the 72 children that were alive were. my photographer holding the camera was inside this orphanage a short time ago when we had a relatively strong aftershock. it was very concerns. obviously there was a major catastrophe here, something that scares us a great deal. my producer and i were out here. scary enough being outside. we yelled phil, come on out. phil ran out quickly the smart guy he is. we experienced a lot of aftershocks. made to lot harder, challenging to cover a story like this. we're reassured when we're here telling stories of lack of aid it's helping get aid in places like this. this is gary tuchman, cnn, in port-au-prince, haiti. >> larry: and we'll be back right after this. blossom, panda moon... how about chinese at home with new wanchai ferry? you can make it in just 14 minutes mmmh, orange chicken. great. i didn't feel like going out anyway (announcer) wanchai ferry. restaurant quality chinese in your grocer's freezer
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>> larry: back to port-au-prince with dr. sanjay gupta, cnn's chief medical correspondent, also a practicing neurosurgeon. i saw your piece earlier when you were out at the airport, looking at a bunch of supplies. why can't the supplies get from the airport to the interior? >> reporter: that's exactly what we're trying to answer. you know, we keep talking about this night after night. the fact the supplies are here in port-au-prince stuck at the airport. what's the problem here? i wanted to go see for myself. actually walk and confirm the supplies are there and then basically tell the guys, look, here's what's needed. they give me a bunch of splice
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a supplies. i walked out and gave them to the hospital. the problem seems to be -- seems to be easy to get stuff into the airport. seems to be doing a good job of that. there's no central distribution within the airport after that. organizations, whether from specific countries or relief organizations are supposed to come to the airport, supposed to come with a specific lot number and identification and then claim their supplies and walk out with it. somewhere in that process things are breaking down. not able to get into the airport. don't have the right lot number. there is confusion at that point of things. that really seems to be the problem more than anything else. again, you know, antibiotics, pain medications, various other things. i was able to walk out and give it to a hospital that said here's what we need. we could deliver that today. >> larry: so there's no one in charge of going out and distributing -- i don't understand that. >> reporter: well, you know, you have several different organizations here. a lot of relief organizations, for example. then you have countries like china, switzerland, israel, they
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all have their own organizations. they all are asking for things to be flown into the airport. those things are getting to the airport as far as we can tell. there was huge boxes of all sorts of different supplies. at that point there's no single person who sort of say, okay, china's stuff is over here. israel's stuff is over here. let's give that to these folks. that part of the process is breaking down. part of that is because it's chaotic eight, nine days after the earthquake. >> larry: that's dr. sanjay dew point to in port-au-prince. we swing to ft. lauderdale, florida. soledad o'brien is back home, cnn anchor and special correspondent reporter. she's followed the journey of orphans from haiti to miami. there she is. what's the situation there, soledad? >> reporter: well, i got to tell you, you have never seen happier parents who just moments ago saw their adopted children come off that airplane. it's been quite a voyage.
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what an amazing reunion. i think the parents were tense because it was unclear if they were going to be able to get out. the paperwork was in order. these are infants, young children from the orphanage. the day started with them being choppered out of their orphanage and when they were choppered out of their orphanage they were then able to get on an aircraft which was over there and they were able to then make the flight from haiti. so it's been quite a process for these kids who now are in the united states. they were processed through immigration and customs. the whole thing has taken many, many hours start to finish, larry, but they are with their parents today and tremendous, tremendous joy. it was not the same story for some of the young infants and toddlers and young children at the orphanage, which we've been following the story, you remember of the babies that were in that truck and, of course, we traveled with them on a bus as they got ready to leave their orphanage and they could not get
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to the embassy. they were told by someone who was there not to come with the kids without their paperwork finished so they turned back. on that bus, though, sweltering hot. 90 degrees. kids were throwing up. it was quite scary because infants are very small and pretty fragile. so a wonderful story for these parents, 22 children were on this flight and not such great news for the 135 kids who are trying to leave the orphanage, but they say they will continue to try to get their kids to their adoptive parent, parents who had paperwork in the adoption process, so mixed news i guess for families both here and there. larry? >> larry: thanks, soledad. great job. what a great sight. you're very lucky girl. hey, by the way, you like these suspenders? they're yours if you're the highest bidder. go to cnn.com/larryking.
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>> larry: our correspondents in haiti have been telling us about the potential for violence as the situation there grows more desperate. tonight karl penhaul witnessed a desperate act that had deadly consequences. we warn you, some of the images in this report are disturbing. karl? >> reporter: yeah, indeed, larry. we were driving just beyond the airport this day and as we drove by we saw or we heard a single shot ring out. that got our attention. we looked across and at that point we saw two haitian police officers holding two detained young men and at that point as we spotted them more shots rang out and we saw those police officers shoot their young detainees at pointblank range in the process of stopping the car, we run out to see what is
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happening and on the ground one of these men was gasping his last breaths. there was another man who was badly wounded and the police evidently thought that they had been stealing bags of rice. the wounded man denied it and the witnesses nearby said no such thing had occurred, larry. >> larry: unbelievable. thanks, karl. karl penhaul. incredible stories every day. dan woolly was buried in the hotel of the hotel montana in port-au-prince for 65 hours. as you can see he survived the ordeal. his wife, christy, joins us, too, in colorado springs, colorado. how did you do it, dan? >> you know what? i had a lot of people praying for me. praying for safety for this trip and god was there. he was listening to their prayers and he helped me survive. >> larry: what were you doing in haiti? >> i work with compassion international. i was there with a filmmaker,
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david hames. we were shooting a documentary to shine a light on the poverty, extreme poverty of children there. >> larry: now, i understand you wrote notes while buried under the rubble to your wife and your two sons. how did you do that? >> well, i realized that i was always hoping for a rescue, but i realized that i may not have that opportunity, that might not be god's plan for me at that time. so i had a camera with me and i was able to use the light from the focus on the camera to shine on a page and write a couple lines and move my finger down and write a couple more lines. i wanted to say to my wife and kids the things i would want them to carry with them if i wasn't able to get out. >> larry: christy, have you seen those notes? >> i've seen some of them. yes. >> larry: what were you going through -- what did you say, dan? >> i'm not ready to share them
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all yet. we're still working through some of that. >> larry: all right. christy, what was it like for you? did you give up hope? >> i did in the end. i did give up hope because -- oh, gosh, i just kept crying out to god. i didn't know if dan was in heaven or in haiti and i went from times of despair to times of hope, but it was hard to go back and forth and then we have two young sons and hard to stay strong for them and say daddy's coming home, daddy's coming home and then not know for sure. >> larry: how did you learn he was okay? >> the state department called me at 6:00 in the morning, friday morning and i started packing. they said that they found him, he was alive, but they couldn't get to him. so i packed my boots and my gloves and my hat and my sunglasses and i was on my way to haiti to dig and i got a call
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in the dallas airport that they had been able to extract him. >> larry: wow. i understand there was another man buried and you were talking to him, too, dan? is that true? >> that's right. i was able to communicate with about seven other people, but right next to me in the elevator next to me was a haitian gentleman. we could hear each other well and talked a lot and prayed together and sang songs together and really encouraged each other. holding on to hope in a situation like that was just really vital. and i wanted to do everything i could to get back to my wife and my boys. >> larry: christy, when that phone rang at 6:00 a.m., that could have been anything on that call, right? that could have been bad news. >> yes. >> larry: do you remember what you felt before you picked up the phone? >> well, my sister answered it and then she brought the phone to me and said, christy, it's the state department. they're calling. and i had to fall on the floor.
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i couldn't even stand up. my legs were shaking so badly and i just said, have you heard anything from my husband and they said, well, a man named dan woolly has been identified. i said, is he alive? they said, yes, he's alive. i said, can he identify himself? can you tell me of his injuries? they said, we don't know anything, also we can't get to him. >> larry: wow. dan, you okay? >> i'm doing okay. i have a big cut on my leg that's healing. i'm going to have a great scar there. other than that -- >> broken leg. broken foot. >> i'm alive and i'm with my family and just grateful to god and all the people around the world praying for me. >> larry: congratulations to both of you. dan and christy woolly, what a story. >> thank you. >> larry: tonight, rather than honoring -- thank you, guys. rather than honoring one everyday person who does something extraordinary to help others as our cnn hero of the week, we're taking a slight turn to recognize everyday people
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helping each other. we couldn't ignore the resilience of the haitians. cnn heroes salutes the survivors of the haiti earthquake. >> reporter: one of the worst ever natural disasters in the western hemisphere couldn't have chosen a more fragile target. through it all the haitian people rallied their strength and persevered. people dig through rubble with their bare hands searching for trapped relatives and rescuing neighbors. >> is she alive? is she okay? >> she's all right. >> reporter: survivors share food and water and in random moments high above the ruins a new sound. hope. >> i'm not afraid. i'm not afraid because god is with me. >> reporter: in the midst of grave tragedy, the haitian people remain hopeful. embracing life and each other. >> larry: the more than 6 million survivors of the haiti
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>> larry: joining us now from columbia, south carolina, john moylan who served as south carolina state chairman and senior adviser for senator john edwards' 2004 and 2008 presidential campaigns. here's the statement john edwards issued today. "i am quinn's father. i will do everything in my power to provide her with the love and support she deserves. i've been able to spend time with her during the past year and trusted future efforts to show her the love and affection she deserved can be done privately and in peace. it was wrong for me ever to deny she was my daughter and hopefully one day when she understands she'll forgive me. i have been providing financial support for quinn and have reached an agreement with her mother to continue providing support in the future. for all those that are disappointed and hurt, these words will never be enough but i am truly sorry." john, are the words enough for you? >> you know, larry, i think there are a lot of us who feel
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tremendous disappointment over what's happened. there's certainly those, elizabeth, the family and others who have been hurt. you know, i think john edwards is very, very serious in expressing his remorse. for some that will never be enough. for me i'm grateful that he has done that. but there's still tremendous disappointment that we will always have. >> larry: how surprised were you when this whole thing broke, john? >> i guess it depends on how far back you go, larry. as to when the whole thing broke. i mean, as you know, it's sort of come out in bits and pieces. you know, i was very surprised to first learn of the affair and, you know, hoped that we would get to this day when john edwards acknowledged and accepted responsibility for what he's done. >> larry: this was quite a career, wasn't it, destroyed?
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>> i'm sorry, larry? >> larry: this career was quite a career that he destroyed? >> yeah, you know, it's -- absolutely. i mean, he is a tremendously talented politician. tremendously talented speaker. and you know, for many of us, i mean, we fought in the campaign not just for the personality of john edwards but for the policies he believed in that were of vital importance to many of us and still of critical importance to people in america. for poverty, for giving a voice to those who don't have a voice. i mean, john edwards gave life to some of those causes. i hope other politicians, other elected officials will pick up that mantle and go forward with it so this was not all done for nault. >> larry: he initially denied he had an affair and appeared on
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"nightli "nightline." here's what he said about the paternity of miss hunter's baby at the time. >> i would become participating in a test. i know it's not possible this should could be mine because of the timing of events. i know it's not possible. happy to take a paternity test and would love to see it happen. >> larry: and, john, his wife was o guest on this show in mid-august of last year addressing health care reform. she did address a few personal issues. watch and i want to ask you about elizabeth. i know you were candid in the past about the impact of your husband's problems and your relationships. how are things going? >> things are going fine. we're getting children ready for a new school year. everything seems to be going pretty smoothly at my house. but thank you for asking. >> larry: and the continued questions about the paternity factor? is there any solution there? dna test? do you know if anything is going to happen? >> my expectation at some point
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something happens and i hope for the sake of this child that it happens, you know, in a quiet way. >> larry: john, have you read the book "game change?" >> i have certainly read the relevant portions, larry. >> larry: are you shocked by what you've learned? you were so close to him. have you learned about both him and her? >> you know, i have, you know, read the book with great interest. the concern i have, and i don't think it's the intention of the author, but i think you have to be very careful when you relegate someone's entire life to taking a snapshot of what happened during one of the most stressful periods, particularly for elizabeth. you know, going through what she has been through in life, i wouldn't want to put myself in that position. i certainly wouldn't want to guess how i would react. she's a very strong person and
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they have been through very, very trying times. you know, what senator edwards did was wrong. he has acknowledged that. he has accepted responsibility. you know, i hope and pray that he is going to move on and do good things in the future. >> larry: are you still friendly with both? >> i am, frankly. i consider both john and elizabeth my friends. you know, i hate the -- what has happened to each of them. i regret it, you know, for them personally. i regret it for those of us who worked very hard for them, for his children, kate and jack and emma claire. and for quinn. there are many, many people who have been hurt in this. i'm very glad he has now stepped up, acknowledged the wrongdoing, accepted responsibility and as i said i hope to see him doing good things in the future. >> larry: are they still together, john? >> larry, i don't have
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independent knowledge of that. my understanding is that they are living separately at this time. at least temporarily. >> larry: thanks, john. john moylan. standing up for a friend. john edwards story isn't just a personal one. we'll talk more about political ramifications and that supreme court decision today with an outstanding panel, next. 4 is he in? he's in copenhagen. oh, well, that's nice. but you can still see him! you just said he was in... copenhagen. come on! that's pretty far. doc, look who's in town. ellen! copenhagen? cool, right? vacation. but still seeing patients. oh. [ whispering ] workaholic. i heard that. she said it. i... [ female announcer ] the new office. see it. live it. share it. on the human network. cisco.
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>> larry: lots of political news breaking today. outstanding panel to discuss it. mark penn in new york, served as a pollster and campaign strategist for hillary clinton, pollster and adviser to presidentback beco president bill clinton and ceo of berston. ben stellar, columnist for "fortune" magazine in washington. new york, stephanie miller, host of her own radio show, her website, stephaniemiller.com. and in new york, s.c. cup. columnist for the new york daily news and senior writer for the daily caller website. first, the big news of the day, the supreme court. 5-4 vote rules corporations can contribute anything and take credit for the contributions and political campaigns pretty much handing a major defeat to the mccain law. what do you make of that ruling,
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mark? >> this takes us into uncharted territory. the whole goal of campaign finance was to reduce the influence of money in politics and, in fact, the whole thing has boomeranged with this supreme court decision. the law result in a decision that's overturned precedent and this is historically unprecedented that corporations now can take out political ads. >> larry: ben, what do you make of it? >> well, the story is really that a contribution is a form of free speech. that's how the supreme court seeing it that giving money is a way to express yourself. the way it had been, certain groups were more favored in expressing themselves than anotherers and very wealthy people running for office, ji gantically more favored than other people. this worked enormously to the advantage of the democratic party whose campaign contributions in the last several cycles dwarfed those of the republicans. now maybe the playing field will be leveled a little bit. it makes me uneasy. i'm with mr. penn on that.
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the idea there are no limits whatsoever makes me a bit uneasy. >> larry: stephanie, what's your read? >> you know, larry, i think the next ruling has to be we have to make sure they look like -- congress people look like nascar drivers. there has to be strips over every piece of their clothing as to who actually bought them. you know, i think this is a horrible decision obviously and, you know, this is what happens with a george bush republican-packed court. i think it's ironic we elected this man of the people who drives a truck in massachusetts who the big wall street bankers were very much behind and, you know, this is who won in this decision. this is -- this is not about the people, larry. this is about the fat cats again. >> larry: miss cup, unions can now give more, too, can't they? >> exactly. this really kind of splits it down the middle. i mean, corporations generally give more to republicans but the unions get to give and generally give more to democrats.
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this is not a, i think, a big deal. i mean, corporations and unions are both going to have to take a risk in whether they decide to become political. they can -- they risk losing revenue if they become openly political. it's a risk either way. frankly, money has always influenced politics. this is not really anything new. >> larry: all right. i'm going to take a break and come back and discuss john edwards. next with this panel, don't go away. go back to sleep america. the oil crisis is over.
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>> larry: all right, mark penn, in the new book "game change," what do you make of the whole edwards saga which is reported there add en finitem. >> this is a personal story, not a political one. the less time spent on this, probably the better. i think there's no excuse that even so long after the campaign when he knew it was his child and a child was involved that he waited until another book was going to come out. you know, by one of his aides about this very thing to disclose this. a child was involved from the beginning. he knew it. there's really no excuse for this. it's a personal story now. not a political one. it's a no political -- >> larry: ben? what do you make of a career going down like this, ben? >> well, when jesus came upon the woman taking an -- and the elder says we have to stone her, jesus said, yes, i agree, the law says we have to stone her.
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and dr. drea said recently, lord this is the way you made us, you shouldn't blame us. this is how people are. it's very, very unfortunate, it's very unfortunate we're sinful, hypocritical beings. this is the way god made us and it's unfortunate he chose politics as his career. >> larry: stephanie? >> oh boy. i don't know if this is a man/woman thing, larry, but he's a little more forgiving than i would be. there's so many words for john edwards, larry, and so few i can say on basic cable. you know, i think that a lot of us -- i've had elizabeth edwards on my show. i'm a big fan, but i think most of us -- again, i don't know if it's a female thing or human thing. imagine, like, losing a child, having cancer, having your husband not just be unfaithful but father a child with someone else when you're raising two young children then have you supporting a presidential campaign all the time? i mean, it's just beyond unconscionable. he could have taken down the whole democratic party with him.
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>> larry: yeah. miss cupp, what's your read? >> certainly it's an embarra embarrassing day for the edwards and embarrassing day for the mainstream media. when you remember back to the whiff that john mccain had an extramarital affair with a lobbyist, which proved false, "the new york times" put this on their front page, a completely unsourced story. despite much photographic proof of john edwards' affair, a lot of media sat on this. i hope this is not only teaching a lesson to would-be politicians out there but most of the mainstream media as well. >> larry: miss cupp, what do you make of the cindy mcmccain support of same-sex marriage? >> look at mary matalin and james carville to know a happy marriage does not always mean for political agreement. i know meghan mccain and know she's a very, you know, great advocate for gay rights.
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i'm not surprised she's convinced her mom to go public along with her and, you know, that's cindy mccain's decisions. she's a great advocate for any cause she wants to put her muscle behind. >> larry: is that an embarrassment to the senator, mark? >> oh, look, i don't think so. i think people are really used to couples taking, as i think she said, all sorts of different positions now. i just think that goes with the territory these days. >> larry: ben? >> well, what we have in california that's a real embarrassment is a full scale nut job whack case running a trial about whether or not proposition 8 will be overturned. i agree there should be a trial about it. this guy is a full-scale lunatic -- >> larry: who? >> the judge in this case. he's turning this case into a circus. travesty of trial law. it's an embarrassment. you would probably nothing could embarrass california but its embarrassment to california. >> larry: stephanie? >> oh, i think it's an
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embarrassment to california that hay voted to discriminate against gay people and not give them equal rights. so, you know, i'm glad cindy mccain's doing this, larry, but i wish she'd done it when it might have helped gay people, before this ridiculous prop 8 rules and when it could have affected her husband and real policy. so -- >> larry: all right. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we'll talk about the newest star on the political horizon. the junior senator-elect from massachusetts after this. if toyota gets credit for being the most fuel efficient car company in america, well, then how do you explain all this? chevy malibu, cobalt, silverado, and the all-new equinox. compare them to anyone. may the best car win.
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>> larry: this sunday night, our telethon again and donate again. it's a great two hours. check it out sunday night. okay, ben stein, can we see a scott brown/sarah palin ticket in 2012? politics can change overnight. what do you make of massachusetts? >> scott brown is a superstar. i've never seen a person burst upon the national scene so fast and powerfully as this man. says all the right things. he's a great looking guy. got a lot of self-confidence and lot of modesty at the same time. sarah palin is yesterday's news. a very nice woman and has the right heart on a lot of issues. this guy is a meteor. so bright, it's unbelievable. massachusetts may be a cradle of presidents again. >> larry: mark, he's going to be up for re-election for the senate in 2012. does he go national? >> well, look, i think it's too
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early. i don't think this election was as much about him as it was about the voters, you know, wanting to express that they have, you know, tough times, high unemployment, high def sits and sending a message to washington. i don't know whether it's going to be about him or about the message that was sense out of that election. i think it was mostly the message. >> larry: miss cupp, doesn't it appear he's on his way, though, politically? i mean, he's so fast he's on the scene? >> absolutely. he's a superstar. what happened in massachusetts this week was the political equivalent of the boston massacre and anyone who tries to spin it differently is just wrong. conservatives need to be careful. he has yet to serve a single day in the united states senate. let's wait and see if he can prove us right before we anoint him as the next great right hope. >> larry: stephanie, what's the effect of that election on legislation like health care?
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>> i don't know, larry. i know things have changed when the republicans elected a former nu dx e model who tried to auction his daughters off at his victory speech. that's a little bit of a change for the family values party, you're right. i think he has run as an obstructionist. he has run as i'm the 41st vote against everything. so, you know, i'm not sure how this is different. i agree he's good looking and charismatic and i think martha cokely was not a good candidate. i don't know how, you know, if this is the end of civilization as we know it as a lot of the republicans like to cast this. >> larry: mark, do you think there will be a health bill coming forth? >> well, i think there will be a health bill but i think that it's really going to be changed over time here. i think this election says that there's a lot of opposition to this bill, a lot of concern about it. you know, i think that, you know, you may take a step-by-step approach, might be
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a wiser approach. i think people are looking for progress first on the economy before health care and so i think this is going to be a process that now gets considerably slowed down. >> larry: ben, what's the effect on the president who apparently retains his personal popularity? >> i think the effect on the president is to say, go back to square one and say, look, the country has got a really bad recession. it's not getting better as fast as we thought it would. foreclosure crisis is still a crisis. let's concentrate on that. let's put everything else on the back burner. put america back to work. do all you can to do that. worry about these other ideological issues later. get americans back to work. >> larry: miss cupp, what do you make of the president and his standing right now? >> it's not good, larry. i think you can tell by his spinsters. they're trying to market him now as a populist which is hilarious. the guy who made fun of scott brown for driving a pickup truck
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is suddenly the man of the people. i think they're desperate. what they should do is have the president start over as ben said, come back to the middle, be the centrist he was elected to be and start listening to the voices of the american people. incorporate a lot more bipartisanship, whether on health care or jobs or the economy. open his ears. >> larry: okay. lots more. we'll be doing a lot of this all next week. thank you. we'll have you back. thank you, all. go to cnn.com/larryking if you'd like to own it, somebody's willing to pay $19,000 for it right now. so you have to do better than this if you want to take it home. usher is here right after the break. the driver will get to choose how efficient or powerful their car will be. the first ever hs hybrid. only from lexus. the most fuel-efficient of all luxury vehicles.
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>> larry: joining us now in atlanta is usher, the grammy winning recording artist. his new look foundation is partnering with the u.n. foundation, which is founded by ted turner, to help raise funds for haitian relief efforts. new look has launched what is called a powered by service initiative. what is that, usher? >> well, power by service is our
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youth ability to utilize service, to hopefully bring about relief, specifically in regards to haiti and the relief that they're dealing with there. for instance, i have one of my kids -- i'm going to introduce you later -- evan jackson, through simply raising his voice and speaking to his family and also speaking on his twitter raised money for relief there in haiti. this is the idea that, you know, the 50% of our population, which is youth, are able to utilize their voices to make a difference. you know, i know a lot of people at home watching and asking what they can do. a lot of youth, specifically. well, this is what they can do. through power by service, use your voice to raise money and also awareness for relief there in haiti. >> larry: so you're saying young people can be key players in the haiti disaster? you obviously have a lot of faith in young people.
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how do they get aboard? how do they get involved? >> well, just to give you an example, like if i share statistics with you, out of the 50% of the population that is youth, if 1% of the youth raise just $5, $150 million could be raised simply out of that. for evan and other youth that are all over the world asking what they can do, if they can simply raise money they can -- we can begin to make a difference. there's a lot of issues that are there that, you know, daily we're finding out about. like, for instance, medication being on the ground and not being able to necessarily get it to the people who need it. but, you know, we are doing everything that we can. this is just something, or an indication, of where it has worked. i really wanted to let him talk to you about it as well. >> larry: evan jackson is in new york, student at eagle academy for young men in the bronx. he raised $1,000 for haitian
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relief after hearing about usher's call to action. how did you do that, evan? >> last sunday actually me and my family had a get together. kind of a reunion and we decided in the eve of the crisis that we would help and we sent around a basket and at the end of the night we came up with $1,000. >> larry: how did you hear about what usher was doing? >> it was posted all over facebook and twitter. i've been involved with new look through leadership tactics and their workshops and they taught me how to be power by service. >> larry: your new look has partnered with the u.n. foundation before, hasn't it, usher? >> yeah. with malaria prevention in africa. that's one thing we partnered on and now, you know, doing everything that we can, the money that is raised can actually be sent to the u.n. foundation, cerf, c-e-r-f, and
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the money will be properly placed. >> larry: how do they -- >> this is a -- >> larry: go ahead. >> no, this is a time when you see malaysia, when you see germany, when you see, you know, so many youth all over the world making a difference and, you know, this call to service is something that, you know, i, you know, i've been speaking about for the last ten years. now here's a reality. here's an opportunity for youth to truly show how they can be influential in making a difference. >> larry: how do people check in to the new -- how do people check in to the new look foundation? how do you get information? >> well, you check in to the new look foundation by going to ushersnewlook.org. if you want to make a donation specifically toward a haiti relief, you can go to the u.n.
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foundation/cerf. >> larry: u.n.foundation/cerf. you can make a donation or go to ushersnew look foundation. ivan, are you going to continue to do efforts like this? >> i will continue to work with usher's new look. this is a milestone and i want to surpass it. i want to keep helping. those are my brothers and sisters and aunts down there. >> example of what all youth can do -- >> larry: go ahead, usher. >> ivan is an example of what all youth can do in america. simply by raising awareness amongst your family. you know, through your twitter sites, through your facebooks, you could raise funds and also awareness. >> larry: i salute you both. the president of usher's new foundation has written an exclusive blog for us. check it out on our web page, cnn.com/larryking. grsa